I agree the universe came from nothing, but what supplied the energy of nothingness? Because nothingness actually takes a lottttttttt of work.

Yes, I agree nothing does not exist. Something is eternal. The question is what? Energy is eternal, I would say but I would also say we do not experience all its forms.

This doesn't mean though that universes are eternal. Universes to me are an end product.

Maybe Quantum Fluctuations popped out of nothing because of the uncertainty principle and this formed a kind of space-time. But nothing formed until Higgs Field solidified giving particles mass...although u'd have to explain how gravity came out of the quantum fluctuations, and then the Higgs.

BUT more important you'd have to explain how the uncertainty principle applies to the energy of nothing (because the uncertainty principle applies to smaller energies like electrons and virtual particles and when you take away space-time, energy no longer has limits and the energy density becomes infinite from my understanding.) But maybe you know something here to inform me?

The work of keeping nothing present, the work of keeping a vacuum of empty space actually takes a lot of energy. This is why there is sooo much mass in empty space.

It is kinda like to keep your room clean of dust bunnies, a lot of sweeping must take place.

So, we have a lotttttt of empty space, but this empty space requires tons of energy to remain empty.

Before space-time, there was nothing .........BUT what is impotent here is HOW this nothingness exists? The Energy to keep it present would be infinite. And maybe eternal. And it is that energy that can do that, which makes nothing present, which is vital in understanding more fully.

.
The question becomes... are we experiencing all this infinite eternal and very fundamental, simple energy?

Or are we only experiencing a part of this energy?

Is part of this energy hidden from us?

What is the true fullness or true reality of this energy?

I think our understanding of it is essentially limited and might always be. I think we will only experience a part of it.

I don't agree "God" is a complex idea and so this complicates things.

If "God" exists, it would be the most fundamental and simplest form of reality.

Complexity adds limits--
Simplicity brings limitlessness--

We see this with empty space, quantum fluctuations/virtual particles, electrons.

Before we knew of these things, we might think something that can cross the universe in a blink of an eye (electrons), something that is entangled to every other part- knowing what and where it is all the time (electrons), something seemingly timeless (electrons in universe), something seemingly limitless (empty space quantum fluctuations), something eternal (energy), something that pops something out of nothing, seemingly all powerful.

Would have to be a complicated thing.

But of course it is in nature, the most simplest form of nature.

"God" would be the simplest and most fundamental reality. Not being bound by space, time or matter provides limitlessness in its simplicity.

Complexity comes because of matter, space and time....we are complex humans and so we are also very limited -bound by that which makes us complex.

Electrons are very simple and yet very powerful.

The simplest form of nature we have found is electrons and empty space quantum fluctuations. This is the simplest form of energy we know exists.

I think this is one aspect of this infinite energy.

But much of its true nature is hidden from us and we don't experience it in its true fullness.