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#1 Nothing is No Information

#2 Something is Some Information

#3 NoThing is Infinite/Unlimited information


Be careful how you understand NOTHING to be and how the word is used when you read my pages and articles on the web. I hold that the true vacuum energy of our universe and of in fact everything is from NOTHING of Infinite Information, is dynamic, and full --not empty, stagnate, and of zero information.


All the information collected from this process of existence and life is also retained inside of the Nothing. Who knows how many times existence and life have happened. I don't think information is lost or destroyed, and I don't think it returns into a zero-information kind of nothing.


Both understandings of nothing look very similar. They are both undefinable, unquantifiable, immeasurable...but they are opposites. The difference between zero and infinity.


FYI: There is One thing all of life wants, even human life and that is the effects of LOVE.



Joke

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Nothing- Nothing and everything are but different forms of the same.

Nothing- Nothing and everything are but different forms of the same.
Nothing is everything, but everything is not nothing.

From Spirit to Nature

From Spirit to Nature

Wednesday, July 2, 2014

Is science all knowing?

Our consciousness is invisible, it is immaterial and certainly we can study it and are getting somewhere. In my view, the spirit is linked to this.

I find it ridiculous that people think science shows there is no evidence of God and therefore there is not one.

Firstly, science to me reveals more about an all pervading, all knowing, illimitable, infinite, (spirit) the more I learn. The spirit aspect is which is not seen by science, but everything we learn about electrons, and virtual particles tells us all kinds of amazing things nature can do which we never would have imagined. Things like timeless electrons, 'knowing' electrons, infinite virtual particles/energy, illimitable virtual particle/energy.

I'm going to reduce this 'God' word to the spirit, since that is the word that makes most sense to me, not God.

Einstein did not agree with religions of the day, but he did say his religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable, infinite spirit. Spirit being the key word here.

Religions don't have a perfect model of the spirit, true! But science doesn't have a perfect model of nature either! One addresses spiritual while the other the natural. Neither have models that fit perfectly to what the reality of nature and the spirit are. The both ask different questions.

A spirit perhaps that pervades everything before and after the material or perhaps a spirit that is an echo of natural conscious energies itself.

When did science become all knowing? Further when did we?

What makes us think science shows everything about nature? Aren't there possible aspects of nature that science will never be able to know or delve into? What if the spirit is not supernatural, but that nature is simply another aspect of this pervading spirit?

If what is the most simple, most basic, most fundamental is in fact a spiritual energy and from that all material things came to be then the nature we are studying is simply a result of this spiritual aspect. In fact there could be other aspects of the spirit in which we are not privy to in studying just science, but only the natural.

By usual definition there is the spirit and there is the natural.  Science is talking about the material nature, not the immaterial aspect of nature which is spirit. Science doesn't see the immaterial or the spirit. But the spirit has been experienced by the immaterial consciousness.

Our consciousness is in fact immaterial. Our thoughts and emotions are immaterial.

Some say consciousness might be an illusion. I say the material is the illusion, the grand delusion. The whole material experience is a temporary fake. The only thing real is the immaterial.

God has to do something to exist? God is immaterial and basic just like our consciousness is both immaterial and basic.

What you believe has partly to do with where you were born? Many people change faiths as they grow up, and  people come to faiths because of their life experiences. But it doesn't matter what faith you are, because none of the models are perfect models of the spirit! They are all attempts like science has models to attempt to qualify the natural.

The point is in investigating it and learning it and figuring it out yourself.
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What is God?

For myself, I view God as a Spirit. An infinite, illimitable, eternal Spirit. What is a Spirit? For myself, I view a Spirit as the most fundamental form, most simple form of energy.

I think to call the Spirit/God as intelligent or conscious, restricts and limits our own understanding of it. This is because we view life and nature through our own intelligence and consciousness. Ours evolved naturally from simple to complex and is restricted by body/space/time.

A God would not have these limits, would not have evolved and would not be complex. Therefore its "intelligence" and "conscious" would be nothing like we understand.

God is not a consciousness inside a brain or an intelligence inside a brain or even a mind inside a brain. Though a mind might be the closest we can think of it. God would exist outside of space and time and inside of it; therefore, its "consciousness" would encompass past-present-future and even before time. Its intelligence could be much like a mathematical genius quantum computer. Perhaps an Awakened Energy-Spirit- would be a better definition.

There are two kinds of energy in my view. Spiritual and Physical. When we understand virtual particles and fundamental particles better, I think we come closer to understanding what Spiritual Energy can do as well.

Spiritual Energy >>Withdrawal>>Space Forms>>Physical Energy Emerges>>Fields> Virtual Particles> Forces>Fundamental Particles>Everything Physical Forms.

Science examines the natural/the physical, not the spiritual.

I agree with everything from science, except when biologists (not mathematicians) use words like purposeless, without guide, directionless, without goals.

I agree with mathematicians assessment of randomness.

The reason is because in biology, we are talking about things without a consciousness -processes and mechanisms are non living things and can't have a purpose in the sense that they are using the word. They don't have a consciousness. They are not aware.

We are examining processes and mechanisms, but what is this substance (energy) that these processes and mechanisms are using. From where does this substance (energy) come?

Those are essentially the questions at the crust of the real inquiry into what is reality.

Simply because the process or mechanism is not conscious itself, does not mean they were not structured deliberately or without intent or thought, or that a spiritual energy does not exist.

This simply means that physical things and processes and mechanisms without a consciousness don't have a conscious purpose/goal.

Well, Duh.

So, I agree biological evolution doesn't have a conscious purpose/goal in and of itself -because we are examining only the physical Things, the physical processes and physical mechanisms.

This says nothing about the spiritual significance.

However, they do have a natural purpose/goal.

All energy persists toward entropy =Death.
All life persists to survival =Life

Further, all energy follows a pattern from simple>complex, chaos>order, from heterogenous>homogenous, from random>non random, from death>life>death.

These patterns are reflected in our natural laws.

So, all of energy does follow a guide or a direction. It is the direction or reflection of the natural laws.

is Nothing all there is?

Science seems to be going in the direction that true nothingness does not exist. This is because whenever you find nothing, you find virtual particles.

I would have to agree not just with the science, but with that concept in my view of life and reality.

Nothing does not exist, because whenever you find nothing--you actually find everything just in its most simple and fundamental form. Nothing is NoThing, not the non-existence of everything.

The most simple and fundamental form of reality is NoThing and this is why this happens in my opinion.

The real question for me is, how much of life experience and memories is retained in this simple fundamental form that makes up our universe and our everything?

How is it retained?

We can see cells seem to have a sense of memory and experience, but do virtual particles too?

Do all our memories and life experiences retain themselves in some fundamental form of energy?

Could what we call the soul or spirit be an echo of nature itself?

It does seem that virtual particles have to behave certain ways. It pops as a gluon only to become a photon or such...because it seemingly has to conform to the existence it pops into. Some virtual particles might pop into our existence as anti-quarks, but most have to conform and so we see the photon it is supposed to be.

Why do virtual particles conform? What rules are they following? It seems they are somehow aware of what is around them if they are conforming. (Not to imply this awareness has to be conscious.)